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St Albans (closest CFA)
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| PJ-2 |
Posted on February 08 2010 13:13:45
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I am currently a CFA Vol in R13, I may been studying at Victoria University in St Albans this year. What I am wondering is
what is the closest CFA station to St Albans ?
Thanks for your help.
PS (I am aware that St Albans is MFESB area) |
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| Transit |
Posted on February 08 2010 13:43:53
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I may be wrong but I believe it is Caroline Springs and its a bit of a hike from the Uni |
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| c_lewien |
Posted on February 08 2010 13:44:21
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Caroline Springs ( 8-10km) followed by Hillside (10-12km)
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| scottg000 |
Posted on February 08 2010 13:54:04
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isn't Hillside a satelite of Caroline Springs???? |
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| c_lewien |
Posted on February 08 2010 13:59:14
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Erickson Skycrane
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Location: R8 - Pakenham
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scottg000 wrote:
isn't Hillside a satelite of Caroline Springs????
Correct |
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| esoforrest |
Posted on February 09 2010 07:01:21
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10 min from main road west St Albans near the Shell, to Hillside station (Gourlay Rd) without traffic. |
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| firetek |
Posted on February 09 2010 12:20:45
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PJ-2 wrote:
I am currently a CFA Vol in R13, I may been studying at Victoria University in St Albans this year. What I am wondering is
what is the closest CFA station to St Albans ?
Thanks for your help.
PS (I am aware that St Albans is MFESB area)
As a matter of interest why do you want to know as you'd never make it on time to join a crew on a call?
Don't follow me - you won't keep up |
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| Bart68 |
Posted on February 09 2010 12:38:42
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firetek wrote:
PJ-2 wrote:
I am currently a CFA Vol in R13, I may been studying at Victoria University in St Albans this year. What I am wondering is
what is the closest CFA station to St Albans ?
Thanks for your help.
PS (I am aware that St Albans is MFESB area)
As a matter of interest why do you want to know as you'd never make it on time to join a crew on a call?
He or she may still want to train and maintain his skills, not everyone in the CFA is a first responder. |
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| David_E |
Posted on February 09 2010 15:27:26
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And may want to bear this in mind when finding accomodation, given there's nothing in the way of that on campus. |
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| chucky |
Posted on February 09 2010 17:38:39
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Pumper
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Hell, I live in the City and a member of a brigade over an hour away...
I am often in the area and have turned out on numerous calls, I became a crew leader after 2 years of service (and having a lot of experience in terms of Strike Teams and local incidents under my belt).
Now I am in the middle of working as apart of an IMT... so the sky is the limit.
If you have trouble joining an urban brigade PJ, join a rural one nearby and as much as you can join in on training and other activities from there someone will notice your initiative and get you more involved.
It isn't all about the SDS turnout events, but being reliving crew for strike teams or larger events actually helps many brigades. As in my brigade a lot of the members cannot go away for four days at a time as their farms and businesses would go under. I work as an employee for a company, take leave and can provide that support to the brigade and the CFA.
Go for it an enjoy it! Not to mention, good luck.
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| Watchhouse |
Posted on February 09 2010 17:44:53
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Strike team
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chucky wrote:
Hell, I live in the City and a member of a brigade over an hour away...
I am often in the area and have turned out on numerous calls, I became a crew leader after 2 years of service (and having a lot of experience in terms of Strike Teams and local incidents under my belt).
Lucky you! Crew leader after 2 years. Well done. Ive been active for 8 years and i still cant (cant isnt really the right word to use here, but it will do) get on a crew leader course. 
Nick
Volunteer Firefighter
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| Oscar the grouch |
Posted on February 09 2010 19:02:36
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Erickson Skycrane
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Watchhouse wrote:
Lucky you! Crew leader after 2 years. Well done. Ive been active for 8 years and i still cant (cant isnt really the right word to use here, but it will do) get on a crew leader course.
Unfortunately, this is the mentality of many members.
Now I understand you may have other qualifications that you think might make you suitable for crew leader but 8 years of active service is not one I would see as a prerequisite for crew leader.
I know 20 year veterans that are not suitable for crew leader and members who have only completed a few seasons who are.
Next time your talking to a member of your BMT try putting forward your achievements rather than you time in service.
Sometimes though, some people are just not leadership material and need to be told that by their BMT.
But that doesn't win votes at election time. |
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| wasafirey |
Posted on February 09 2010 20:18:55
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Car / Support
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Oscar the grouch wrote:
Watchhouse wrote:
Lucky you! Crew leader after 2 years. Well done. Ive been active for 8 years and i still cant (cant isnt really the right word to use here, but it will do) get on a crew leader course.
Unfortunately, this is the mentality of many members.
Now I understand you may have other qualifications that you think might make you suitable for crew leader but 8 years of active service is not one I would see as a prerequisite for crew leader.
I know 20 year veterans that are not suitable for crew leader and members who have only completed a few seasons who are.
Next time your talking to a member of your BMT try putting forward your achievements rather than you time in service.
Sometimes though, some people are just not leadership material and need to be told that by their BMT.
But that doesn't win votes at election time.
maybe it is the BMT not giving the opportunity for future leaders to be given the start via either training or mentoring.
it is a common event in business (office politics) so why not in the CFA , to watchouse never give up trying if you feel you have the ability to be a leader, if you dont belive in yourself who will , and bug** the rest of them |
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| chucky |
Posted on February 10 2010 02:03:10
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Indeed. I was lucky in that the BMT at the time were very pro getting young guys involved and mentoring them to grow in their roles. My captain pushed me to do the training and the like, but told me he wouldn't sign me off to actually be a crew leader for a little longer.
He wanted me to get the Wildfire 2 side of things sorted, and once he saw more of me on the fireground and mentored me as a crew leader signed me off to actually be operational as one.
The more recent BMT isn't exactly that positive to it, for example the group have sent me on courses etc for the roles I now take on. Only to get berrated by the BMT for "going behind their back", when it was nothing of the sort. Especially when they delayed getting training info out, so the GO put me on the course (on his recommendation to me) rather than me asking.
Go figure.
Either way, don't let politics stop anyone from learning and moving forward. Those who hang onto the reigns too long will end up holding themselves and brigades behind.
That said, don't rush anything either. I knew I wasn't ready to be crew leader but I did want to learn more before actually taking the reigns for myself... It's a fine art to have four sets of eyes to watch your crew ;-) |
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| Dave |
Posted on February 10 2010 15:12:28
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Erickson Skycrane
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Oscar the grouch wrote:
Watchhouse wrote:
Lucky you! Crew leader after 2 years. Well done. Ive been active for 8 years and i still cant (cant isnt really the right word to use here, but it will do) get on a crew leader course.
Sometimes though, some people are just not leadership material and need to be told that by their BMT.
Good in theory - but nothing says anywhere that the BMT has any leadership potential either...... |
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| chucky |
Posted on February 10 2010 15:28:42
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Pumper
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Location: Rural Brigade in R12
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Dave wrote:
Oscar the grouch wrote:
Watchhouse wrote:
Lucky you! Crew leader after 2 years. Well done. Ive been active for 8 years and i still cant (cant isnt really the right word to use here, but it will do) get on a crew leader course.
Sometimes though, some people are just not leadership material and need to be told that by their BMT.
Good in theory - but nothing says anywhere that the BMT has any leadership potential either......
Indeed... some brigades I know of have Captains/Lieutenants who have nothing more than minimum skills and other brigade members are more qualified and serving longer...
"How many times do people have to be told... democracy doesn't work!"... quote from The Simpsons I think... (I am joking by the way) |
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| Watchhouse |
Posted on February 10 2010 17:08:06
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wasafirey wrote:
Oscar the grouch wrote:
Watchhouse wrote:
Lucky you! Crew leader after 2 years. Well done. Ive been active for 8 years and i still cant (cant isnt really the right word to use here, but it will do) get on a crew leader course.
Unfortunately, this is the mentality of many members.
Now I understand you may have other qualifications that you think might make you suitable for crew leader but 8 years of active service is not one I would see as a prerequisite for crew leader.
I know 20 year veterans that are not suitable for crew leader and members who have only completed a few seasons who are.
Next time your talking to a member of your BMT try putting forward your achievements rather than you time in service.
Sometimes though, some people are just not leadership material and need to be told that by their BMT.
But that doesn't win votes at election time.
maybe it is the BMT not giving the opportunity for future leaders to be given the start via either training or mentoring.
it is a common event in business (office politics) so why not in the CFA , to watchouse never give up trying if you feel you have the ability to be a leader, if you dont belive in yourself who will , and bug** the rest of them
I understand what your saying OTG, but there are members that have been in the CFA a shorter period of time, have had less exposure to fires and callouts, and have done the crew leader course? Personally, i wouldnt follow some CL's to a bin fire, let alone on a ST. Just cause they have done the course, still doesnt mean they should lead a crew of 5 on the fireground.
And couldnt agree more wasafirey. 
Nick
Volunteer Firefighter
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| XPIOTOS |
Posted on February 10 2010 23:12:09
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PJ-2 wrote:
I am currently a CFA Vol in R13, I may been studying at Victoria University in St Albans this year. What I am wondering is
what is the closest CFA station to St Albans ?
Thanks for your help.
PS (I am aware that St Albans is MFESB area)
This thread is so far off topic it's not funny!
But PJ-2, Caroline Springs FS is not all that far from VU St Albans at all - in fact there are CSFB members who study at VU now, and other members who actually live not far from there. It's very possible that you could live in Caroline Springs or Hillside and commute to uni (especially if you're driving). If you look on a few websites you'd probably even find some share houses in the area, where you'd be close enough to turn out (or almost close enough, anyway) and still be only 10 minutes' drive from uni.
Give the station a call and have a chat with the FO on duty. They'll be able to help you out.
Chris
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| firetek |
Posted on February 11 2010 15:58:31
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Pumper
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chucky wrote:
Dave wrote:
Oscar the grouch wrote:
Watchhouse wrote:
Lucky you! Crew leader after 2 years. Well done. Ive been active for 8 years and i still cant (cant isnt really the right word to use here, but it will do) get on a crew leader course.
Sometimes though, some people are just not leadership material and need to be told that by their BMT.
Good in theory - but nothing says anywhere that the BMT has any leadership potential either......
Indeed... some brigades I know of have Captains/Lieutenants who have nothing more than minimum skills and other brigade members are more qualified and serving longer.
Now there's a worry - a BMT based on personality over and above skills and management. If this is true it makes me wonder where that brigade and similar are heading. No wonder the CFA is having crew retention problems.
Don't follow me - you won't keep up |
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| uncleant |
Posted on February 11 2010 16:18:44
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Tanker
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Why does it not surprise me that the point was lost on this lot??? |
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